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JD7
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Please make sure it's Boots Combat High, not the assault boots :)

 
Posted : 10/03/2009 7:33 am
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I would get the trews before the gas mask bag if it were me - a bread bag will do you just fine for your bits'n'bobs - and the SoF ones are £30 which seems a lot.

Pirschen uniforms come very highly recommended: http://www.reenactment-box.com/?do=class&class3=37
£50 with free delivery is a pretty good price for this clobber and by the time you've bought fabric dye and buggered about for half a day with a tub and a washing machine it will seem even better value :D

 
Posted : 10/03/2009 9:34 am
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Q... What FJ unit used the type 1 FG42 ?? and what campaign

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Posted : 10/04/2009 4:13 pm
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Seems a pity that the Fallschirmjager didn't use zeltbahns,

What on earth gave you that idea? :? FJ certainly did use Zeltbahns, splinter ones same a heer. Plenty of original pics showing them worn and rolled up strapped to belts! there a good one in the opsrey men-at-arms book of a pron FJ with a FG42 wearing his!

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 08/05/2009 9:44 am
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I've just received some 'assault grenade bags' from SOF, reportedly favoured by the FJ. They are green canvas bags with god-awful looking bright blue straps. Is this true to the originals? Can I get away with changing the straps to something a little more... green.

Secondly, how are you supposed to wear them?

Thirdly, how do you attach an FJ gasmask bag to yourself/ your webbing? Again, the SOF version.

Yes, you can change the straps - FJ webbing was not always bright blue - they often used green or tan pouches, etc. As for putting them on - I'm assuming they are basically 2 pouches attached by two straps? If so, you sort of put them on like a jacket - put it behind you, and put each arm through the straps. As with a lot of Jerry stuff, it needs the assistance of Kameraden!

Gas mask bag - the length of the straps is sometimes not accurate to the originals. I spent a long time trying to figure out how to put it on the chest as they would have jumped, but finally realised that the straps were not the right length for doing so. I now wear it as per a gas mask cannister, on the back - also authentic.


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Posted : 08/05/2009 10:20 am
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Seems a pity that the Fallschirmjager didn't use zeltbahns,

What on earth gave you that idea? :? FJ certainly did use Zeltbahns, splinter ones same a heer. Plenty of original pics showing them worn and rolled up strapped to belts! there a good one in the opsrey men-at-arms book of a pron FJ with a FG42 wearing his!

Ooh, didn't realise that. :oops: :roll:


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Posted : 08/05/2009 10:22 am
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Seems a pity that the Fallschirmjager didn't use zeltbahns,

What on earth gave you that idea? :? FJ certainly did use Zeltbahns, splinter ones same a heer. Plenty of original pics showing them worn and rolled up strapped to belts! there a good one in the opsrey men-at-arms book of a pron FJ with a FG42 wearing his!

Ooh, didn't realise that. :oops: :roll:

This is the pic I was thinking of:

As the FJ fought as mainly as normal infantry, (late war at least) its logical they would use and need the same kit as the regular infantry!

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 08/05/2009 12:18 pm
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The 1st Fallschirmjager Division In World War II - Volume Two: Years of Retreat

If anyone has it, is it any good?

 
Posted : 11/08/2009 11:40 am
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Sorry not got it.

"years of retreat" doesn't sound too promising to me though :)



 
Posted : 11/08/2009 9:41 pm
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yes we try not to think of that :rofl:

theres nowt so Permanent as temporary




 
Posted : 11/08/2009 9:44 pm
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Well there is a part one, called years of wonderful glory or some such junk :whistle: , but that one is of no use to me...

 
Posted : 11/08/2009 10:06 pm
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Hmm, never heard of them, but I'm not all-knowing. :wink: Kermit ist da dude.


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Posted : 15/10/2009 9:43 pm
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The 1st Fallschirmjager Division In World War II - Volume Two: Years of Retreat

If anyone has it, is it any good?

Who is the author?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 9:48 pm
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The 1st Fallschirmjager Division In World War II - Volume Two: Years of Retreat

If anyone has it, is it any good?

Who is the author?

Ben Christensen

thanks for the reminder, I thought I had ordered this but I don't have it? :? , Have to find out what happened...

 
Posted : 15/10/2009 9:53 pm
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nope don't have it, mine is by klaus j peters. Oh BTW the book on polish forces in WW2 " our greatest allies" is not great, difficult to read and like many new author, he attempts to fit a very large subject into a small volume. sorry for the thread hijack.
now back on topic.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 9:59 pm
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I've looked through a few books, and every close-up pic of collar tabs in them shows stamped metal guls for EM's and bullion embroidered insignia on the Officers tabs. Unfortunately, i've lent the Davis books to a mate so I can't check them at the mo.

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Posted : 15/10/2009 11:40 pm
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Collar tabs. All I can find for reference suggests that the gulls on them are metal. However the ones i've picked up from epic have embroidered bullion gulls. Are either legitimate?

guls were made out of stamped alloy , officer insignia was wire embroided

Freiheit ist nicht frei

Alle sieben Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat ,,,,,,,stalingrad massengrab

 
Posted : 16/10/2009 7:32 am
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Angel, are these the collar tabs you got from epic?

If so then they are for an oberleutnant but should have the bullion half wreath below and bullion piped round the waffenfarbe patch.

Two white metal gulls mounted on unpiped waffenfarbe would indicate the rank of Gefreiter.

White metal gull(s) = Flieger thru Stabsfeldwebel + appropriate Tress

Bullion eagle(s) with half wreath = Leutnant thru Hauptmann
Bullion eagle(s) with full wreath = Major thru General der Fleiger

Info obtained from Uniforms & Iinsignia of the Luftwaffe Vol 1 - Brian L. Davis.

 
Posted : 16/10/2009 7:36 am
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Maybe the years of retreat were only to find out where the metal gulls were kept?

 
Posted : 16/10/2009 8:47 am
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If you've only just received them, send them back for a refund. Distance Selling Regulations give you a week to return them.

When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........

 
Posted : 16/10/2009 6:02 pm
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